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06/06/2007 04:00 PM House FINANCE


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Public Testimony
                  HOUSE FINANCE COMMITTEE                                                                                       
                         nd                                                                                                     
        Anchorage LIO, 2 Floor Conference Room 220                                                                              
                       June 6, 2007                                                                                             
                         4:09 p.m.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
CALL TO ORDER                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Meyer  called the  House Finance  Committee meeting                                                                    
to order at 4:09:17 PM.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
MEMBERS PRESENT                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Representative Mike Chenault, Co-Chair                                                                                          
Representative Kevin Meyer, Co-Chair                                                                                            
Representative Bill Stoltze, Vice-Chair                                                                                         
Representative Harry Crawford                                                                                                   
Representative Les Gara                                                                                                         
Representative Reggie Joule                                                                                                     
Representative Mike Hawker                                                                                                      
Representative Mike Kelly                                                                                                       
Representative Mary Nelson                                                                                                      
Representative Bill Thomas Jr.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
MEMBERS ABSENT                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Representative Richard Foster                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
ALSO PRESENT                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Craig Johnson;  Representative Mike  Doogan;                                                                    
Representative   Paul   Seaton;  Ginny   Austerman,   Staff,                                                                    
Representative   Olson;   Karleen   Jackson,   Commissioner,                                                                    
Department  of Health  and  Social  Services; Janet  Clarke,                                                                    
Assistant Commissioner,  Division of Finance  and Management                                                                    
Services,  Department of  Health and  Social Services;  Mike                                                                    
Friend,  Access Alaska,  Anchorage; Sandy  Camery, Mabel  T.                                                                    
Caverly Senior  Center, Anchorage;  Jay Dulany,  Self; Kevin                                                                    
Turkington,  SeniorCare of  Alaska, Anchorage;  Ray Clemens,                                                                    
Senior  Voice,  Older   Person's  Action  Group,  Anchorage;                                                                    
Rochelle  Davis,  UAA,  Anchorage; Theresa  Panchat,  Marlow                                                                    
Manor  Assisted  Living  Center, Anchorage;  Shelly  Hinges,                                                                    
Alaska  Primary Care  Association,  Anchorage; Susan  Faith,                                                                    
Executive Director, Older Alaskans Program, Anchorage.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
PRESENT VIA TELECONFERENCE                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Jon   Sherwood,   Director,   Office  of   Program   Review,                                                                    
Department  of  Health  and Social  Services  (DHSS);  Marie                                                                    
Darlin,   AARP,  Juneau;   Sam   Trivette,  Juneau;   Denise                                                                    
Daniello, Alaska  Commission on  the Aging;  Errol Stafford,                                                                    
Wasilla  Senior  Center,  MatSu,  spoke in  support  of  the                                                                    
SeniorCare  Program; Allison  Layman, Palmer  Senior Center,                                                                    
MatSu,  spoke in  support of  the SeniorCare  Program; Doris                                                                    
Carpenter,  MatSu;  Elaine   Pitka,  Coordinator,  Fairbanks                                                                    
Native Association  Elder Program, Fairbanks;  Alvin Martin,                                                                    
Fairbanks  Native  Association   Elder  Program,  Fairbanks;                                                                    
Laurence (Larry) Titus,  Fairbanks; Kathleen Dupertus, North                                                                    
Star  Council   and  Aging,  Fairbanks;  Don   Gray,  AK-REA                                                                    
(Retired  Educators  Association), Fairbanks;  Mary  McLean,                                                                    
Fairbanks Native Association Elder  Program,  Fairbanks; Joy                                                                    
Price   Tedder,  Senior   Center,   Fairbanks;  Lou   Gross,                                                                    
Director,  North State  Council,  Senior Center,  Fairbanks;                                                                    
James  Fisher, Self,  Soldotna; Lorna  Arndt, Self,  Kodiak;                                                                    
Charles  Michon,  Homer;  Jane   Symens,  Self,  Homer;  Pam                                                                    
Horazdovsky, Owner,  Elder Options of Alaska,  Homer; Sharon                                                                    
Howerton Clark, Self, Homer; Anna  Winters, Swan Lake Senior                                                                    
Center, Sitka;  Shirley Burkhart,  Swan Lake  Senior Center,                                                                    
Sitka; William  Craig, Sitka;  Helen Unruh,  Wrangell; Betty                                                                    
Keagan, Commission  on Aging, Wrangell; Marie  Darlin, AARP,                                                                    
Juneau;  Sam Trivette,  Juneau;  Denise Daniello,  Executive                                                                    
Commission,  Commission on  Aging, Juneau;  Lorilyn Swanson,                                                                    
Chair, Juneau  Commission on Aging; Sheila  Howe, Anchorage;                                                                    
Loreen McGee, Wrangell.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
SUMMARY                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
CSSB 4 (FIN) am                                                                                                                 
          "An Act extending the cash assistance benefit                                                                         
          program for seniors under the SeniorCare program                                                                      
          and increasing the benefit amount; and providing                                                                      
          for an effective date."                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
          CSSB 4 (FIN) am was heard and HELD in Committee                                                                       
          for further consideration.                                                                                            
CS FOR SENATE BILL NO. 4(FIN) am                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
     "An Act  extending the cash assistance  benefit program                                                                    
     for  seniors   under  the   senior  care   program  and                                                                    
     increasing the benefit  amount; amending medical income                                                                    
     eligibility provisions  for persons  under 19  years of                                                                    
     age  and  for  pregnant  women; and  providing  for  an                                                                    
     effective date."                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Meyer  noted that a  committee substitute  had been                                                                    
distributed,  which would  change the  title of  the program                                                                    
[25-LS0056\K].   Members   were   also   provided   with   a                                                                    
spreadsheet,  which  compared  benefits  under  the  current                                                                    
SeniorCare Program, SB 90/HB 148, SB  4, and HB 198 (copy on                                                                    
file.)                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
GINNY  AUSTERMAN,  STAFF,   REPRESENTATIVE  OLSON,  provided                                                                    
information on  the legislation and  noted that  the current                                                                    
version was M.A  [CSSB 4 (FIN) am].  The legislation extends                                                                    
the program's  sunset date  to June 30,  2011 and  lifts the                                                                    
freeze  on  the  federal  poverty  guidelines  adjusted  for                                                                    
Alaska  from  the  2003  rate.  The  SeniorCare  Program  is                                                                    
strictly  a needs  based program.  The  bill features  three                                                                    
monthly payments:                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
       • $175 per month if the individual's household                                                                           
          income does not exceed 100 percent of the federal                                                                     
          poverty guidelines for Alaska                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
       • $150 per month if the individual's household                                                                           
          income does not exceed 135 but is above 100                                                                           
          percent of the federal poverty guidelines for                                                                         
          Alaska                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
       • $100 per month if the individual's household                                                                           
          income does not exceed 150 but is above 135                                                                           
          percent of the federal poverty guidelines for                                                                         
          Alaska                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Eligible seniors  who may  have been  part of  the Longevity                                                                    
Bonus  Program,   as  well  as  individuals   who  meet  the                                                                    
eligibility criteria  are covered. No Asset  limits would be                                                                    
in place.  The program  would serve approximately  8,800 low                                                                    
income  Alaskan seniors.  An eligible  senior would  have to                                                                    
choose between the two programs  if the Longevity Bonus were                                                                    
funded. She  observed that a proposed  committee substitute,                                                                    
version K, would change the  title to "Senior Benefits" from                                                                    
"SeniorCare". She  noted that due  to the passage of  SB 27,                                                                    
provisions for Denali Kid Care would need to be removed.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
KARLEEN  JACKSON,  COMMISSIONER,  DEPARTMENT OF  HEALTH  AND                                                                    
SOCIAL   SERVICES,  stressed   the   importance  of   senior                                                                    
benefits. She  observed that seniors on  fixed incomes would                                                                    
be at risk without action.  She provided members with a memo                                                                    
by Sherry Hill, Legislative  Liaison, which outlined options                                                                    
for  senior  benefits  (copy on  file).  The  memo  contains                                                                    
short-term  solutions  for  funding a  July  senior  benefit                                                                    
payment. Emergency regulations are  being finalized to allow                                                                    
action  through general  relief.  The memorandum  identifies                                                                    
long-term, statutory solutions to  allow the continuation of                                                                    
benefits.   She   noted  that   there   would   not  be   an                                                                    
appropriation  bill   accompanying  authorizing  legislation                                                                    
passed  [during  the  June 26,  2007  Special  Session]  and                                                                    
requested that  inclusion of  intent language  directing the                                                                    
department  to   request  funding  through   a  supplemental                                                                    
request.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
4:15:56 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
RITA HATCH, OLDER PERSONS ACTION  GROUP, ANCHORAGE, spoke in                                                                    
support of the SeniorCare Program.  She noted that she was a                                                                    
recipient  of the  Longevity Bonus  prior to  the SeniorCare                                                                    
Program. She  acknowledged that the Longevity  Bonus is gone                                                                    
and maintained that it should  not be an issue. She observed                                                                    
that she is  at 120 percent of the poverty  level. There are                                                                    
5,000  people that  would  receive $175  under  SB 4;  2,643                                                                    
individuals  would  receive assistance  at  the  100 to  135                                                                    
percent  of poverty  level;  and  another 1,157  individuals                                                                    
would  receive $100  under the  program.  The program  would                                                                    
provide her with  only $5 more [then she  received under the                                                                    
Longevity Bonus],  but she  acknowledged that  seniors would                                                                    
benefit.  She   referred  to  House  Bill   198  [the  House                                                                    
companion  bill, introduced  by  Representative Hawker]  and                                                                    
stated that  she would support  whichever bill  provided the                                                                    
most  support. She  approved  of the  deletion  of an  asset                                                                    
test. She observed  that most of the poor in  the state rent                                                                    
their homes and  that the renter's benefit  was deleted. She                                                                    
recommended reinstatement of the renter's benefit.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
4:21:33 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MIKE   FRENCH,   ACCESS   ALASKA,  expressed   support   for                                                                    
continuation  of the  SeniorCare Program.  He noted  that he                                                                    
had been contacted by seniors  concerned that they would not                                                                    
be  able to  make  their utility  payments  or afford  other                                                                    
services. He would like to see  more money go to seniors. He                                                                    
observed that any threat to the  fixed income of a senior is                                                                    
difficult.  Water and  heating  costs  have increased.  Many                                                                    
seniors are in the renter's system.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
4:24:35 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
SANDY  CAMERY, EXECUTIVE  DIRECTOR, MABEL  T. CAVERLY SENIOR                                                                    
CENTER, ANCHORAGE, spoke in support  of the legislation. She                                                                    
noted that  they are a small  organization that specifically                                                                    
outreaches  to  low income  seniors.  She  observed that  90                                                                    
percent of  their clients receive  the $120  dollar benefit.                                                                    
She reiterated  that $120 is  the difference  between eating                                                                    
and not  eating. She  asserted that  the 3,700  clients that                                                                    
they  served  last  year  will not  be  eating  without  the                                                                    
benefits. Half  their clients would  be better off  under HB
198 and half would be better  off under SB 4. She encouraged                                                                    
the Committee to consider the  long-term. Seniors are having                                                                    
a hard time "hanging on".  There needs to be a comprehensive                                                                    
plan. She  observed that  many seniors do  not have  food in                                                                    
their refrigerators at the end of the month                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
4:28:18 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
JAY DULANY, EAGLE RIVER,  expressed support for continuation                                                                    
of the SeniorCare Program. He felt  that HB 198 was a better                                                                    
vehicle, but  expressed gratitude  that the issue  was being                                                                    
addressed.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
4:29:25 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
KEVIN   TURKINGTON,   SENIORCARE    OF   ALASKA,   ANCHORAGE                                                                    
INCORPORATED,  spoke  in  support of  the  legislation.  His                                                                    
organization  assists seniors  to  stay in  their homes.  He                                                                    
favored the  name change, but  asked for help  educating the                                                                    
public regarding  the change if  it is adopted. He  spoke in                                                                    
support of  a needs based  program, which helps  seniors and                                                                    
is easy to  access and use. His organization receives  3 - 5                                                                    
or  more  calls a  day  from  seniors that  have  difficulty                                                                    
getting  through   to  the   program  for   information  and                                                                    
applications.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
4:33:15 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
RAY  CLEMENS, SENIOR  VOICE,  OLDER  PERSON'S ACTION  GROUP,                                                                    
ANCHORAGE,  expressed   support  for  continuation   of  the                                                                    
SeniorCare  Program.  He  noted the  difficulty  of  getting                                                                    
assistance   from   the   SeniorCare  Program   office.   He                                                                    
recommended adding staff to the current office.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
4:36:59 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
ROCHELLE DAVIS,  UNIVERSITY OF ALASKA  ANCHORAGE, ANCHORAGE,                                                                    
expressed  support   for  continuation  of   the  SeniorCare                                                                    
Program. She  is a nurse.  She maintained that the  money is                                                                    
needed   for  food   and  medications.   She  observed   the                                                                    
difficulty in  managing chronic illness when  seniors cannot                                                                    
afford medication  or proper  nutrition. Low  income seniors                                                                    
are a vulnerable population and need help.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
4:38:34 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
THERESA  PANCHAT,  MARLOW   MANOR  ASSISTED  LIVING  CENTER,                                                                    
NURSE,  ANCHORAGE,  spoke  in   support  of  the  SeniorCare                                                                    
Program.  She noted  that  care can  be  jeopardized by  the                                                                    
reduction in funding. She observed  that many seniors cannot                                                                    
advocate  for   themselves.  She   stressed  the   need  for                                                                    
assistance and urged the continuation of the program.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
4:40:57 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
SHELLY HINGES,  GOVERNMENT AFFAIRS DIRECTOR,  ALASKA PRIMARY                                                                    
CARE  ASSOCIATION,  ANCHORAGE,  spoke   in  support  of  the                                                                    
SeniorCare  Program.   She  observed  that   physicians  are                                                                    
turning  away Medicare  patients, which  results in  seniors                                                                    
paying  more out-of-pocket.  She noted  the raising  cost of                                                                    
health care, transportation and other fixed costs.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
4:43:19 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
SUSAN  FAITH, EXECUTIVE  DIRECTOR,  OLDER ALASKANS  PROGRAM,                                                                    
ANCHORAGE, spoke  in support of the  SeniorCare Program. She                                                                    
noted  that their  program serves  500 persons  a week  with                                                                    
meals and other  services. One of the  most important issues                                                                    
they  face   is  allowing  home  bound   seniors  to  remain                                                                    
independent.  She  maintained  that  the  seniors  in  their                                                                    
program  live on  the edge  and are  in desperate  straights                                                                    
financially. The money does not go for frills.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
4:46:24 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
ERROL  STAFFORD,  WASILLA  SENIOR CENTER,  MATSU,  spoke  in                                                                    
support  of the  SeniorCare  Program. He  observed that  his                                                                    
wife  has  to  pay  health insurance.  After  insurance  and                                                                    
medical expenses she has less than  $300 a month to live on.                                                                    
The federal  poverty level  for one  person is  $22,348; and                                                                    
the federal  poverty level for  a couple is $29,960  a year.                                                                    
He maintained  that a lot  of seniors at the  Wasilla Senior                                                                    
Center are  in need.  Many of these  seniors were  forced to                                                                    
move in with  their children when they  lost their longevity                                                                    
bonus payment  under Governor Murkowski.  He referred  to HB
198. He  noted that SB 4  would extend the program  for five                                                                    
years and  pay $100 -  $175 per  month. He observed  that if                                                                    
the Longevity Bonus is revived  that those that are eligible                                                                    
and choose  to receive  payments would  not be  eligible for                                                                    
SeniorCare payments.  Seniors would  have to  choose between                                                                    
the  programs. He  noted that  the Governor  has pledged  to                                                                    
help  seniors. He  asserted that  seniors are  suffering and                                                                    
urged action.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
4:49:18 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
ALLISON  LAYMAN,  PALMER  SENIOR  CENTER,  MATSU,  SPOKE  IN                                                                    
SUPPORT  OF THE  SENIORCARE PROGRAM.  She expressed  concern                                                                    
about  the possibility  that the  program would  sunset. She                                                                    
maintained that  a 10  percent decrease  in income  would be                                                                    
devastating  to  seniors.  She stressed  that  expenses  are                                                                    
rising and emphasized  that the goal is to  allow seniors to                                                                    
remain independent.                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
DORIS CARPENTER,  MATSU, spoke in support  of the SeniorCare                                                                    
Program.  She  expressed  her frustration  with  a  lack  of                                                                    
legislative   contact.  She   observed   that  the   Wasilla                                                                    
SeniorCare  Center  has been  helpful.  She  noted that  she                                                                    
would  not  have  sufficient  funds  for  food  without  the                                                                    
program.  She  spoke in  support  of  returning the  renters                                                                    
rebate program.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
4:53:18 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
ELAINE  PITKA,  COORDINATOR,  FAIRBANKS  NATIVE  ASSOCIATION                                                                    
ELDER   PROGRAM,  FAIRBANKS,   spoke  in   support  of   the                                                                    
SeniorCare  Program. She  observed that  it is  difficult to                                                                    
meet needs  as the cost  of living increases. She  noted the                                                                    
high cost of living in  Alaska. She observed that 60 percent                                                                    
of   their   group   is   compromised   nutritionally.   She                                                                    
recommended that the formula be  increased from a minimum of                                                                    
100 percent of  the poverty level to 125  percent. She noted                                                                    
that many seniors are on fixed incomes.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
ALVIN  MARTIN, FAIRBANKS  NATIVE ASSOCIATION  ELDER PROGRAM,                                                                    
FAIRBANKS, spoke  in support of  the SeniorCare  Program. He                                                                    
stressed the difficulty Native seniors face.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
5:02:40 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
LAURENCE (LARRY)  TITUS, FAIRBANKS, spoke in  support of the                                                                    
SeniorCare  Program. He  noted  that his  income  is $470  a                                                                    
month, including  his retirement and SeniorCare  payment. He                                                                    
stressed the difficulty of living on this fixed amount.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
5:03:35 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
KATHLEEN DUPERTUS,  NORTH STAR COUNCIL ON  AGING, FAIRBANKS,                                                                    
expressed  support   for  continuation  of   the  SeniorCare                                                                    
Program. She reviewed services provided  by the Council. She                                                                    
addressed  the great  need  in the  State  and encouraged  a                                                                    
higher  poverty  level  percentage   to  a  minimum  of  125                                                                    
percent. She observed that social  security increases do not                                                                    
take  into   account  the  increasing  cost   of  fuel.  She                                                                    
emphasized the contributions seniors  have made to the state                                                                    
and  felt they  should  be  valued as  much  as the  state's                                                                    
students. She appreciated that the  bill does not included a                                                                    
assets in the qualification  determination. The bill fills a                                                                    
necessary gap.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
5:07:19 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
DON   GRAY,   AK-REA    (RETIRED   EDUCATORS   ASSOCIATION),                                                                    
FAIRBANKS,  pointed  out  that costs  continue  to  increase                                                                    
statewide. She stressed  that the mark of a  fair society is                                                                    
how well they take care  of the most vulnerable. The benefit                                                                    
is important  for the  elders in the  State. She  urged that                                                                    
the bill be passed from Committee.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
5:09:30 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MARY  MCLEAN, FAIRBANKS  NATIVE  ASSOCIATION ELDER  PROGRAM,                                                                    
FAIRBANKS, testified in favor of the proposed legislation.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Representative   Gara  noted   that  the   provisions  under                                                                    
consideration include  annual cost of living  increases [see                                                                    
Representative  Gara's later  remarks, which  clarified that                                                                    
the   cost   of   living  increase   pertains   to   program                                                                    
qualification].                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
5:10:42 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
JOY  PRICE TEDDER,  SENIOR CENTER,  FAIRBANKS, commented  on                                                                    
the problems  faced by seniors  living on a  limited income.                                                                    
She  urged  support  of  the bill.  She  stressed  that  all                                                                    
seniors become disabled as they aged.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Gara corrected  his  previous statement.  He                                                                    
clarified   that  while   the   annual   income  limit   for                                                                    
eligibility  increases with  inflation, he  was not  sure if                                                                    
the payments  would increase with inflation.  He promised to                                                                    
research the issue.                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
5:13:34 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
LOU  GROSS, DIRECTOR,  NORTH STATE  COUNCIL, SENIOR  CENTER,                                                                    
FAIRBANKS, testified  in favor  of SB 4,  noting that  it is                                                                    
critical that  some level  of funding  be made  available to                                                                    
help  "at risk"  seniors  statewide. He  observed that  many                                                                    
seniors were  devastated when the Longevity  Bonus ended. He                                                                    
maintained that  eligible seniors do not  receive SeniorCare                                                                    
payments  due  to  their  inability   to  wade  through  the                                                                    
paperwork. He stressed that after  care expenses are greater                                                                    
than preventive  care. The group  most impacted tends  to be                                                                    
poor self advocates,  who often do not have  the assets that                                                                    
most seniors have.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
5:18:13 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
JAMES  FISHER, SELF,  SOLDOTNA, urged  that SB  4 be  passed                                                                    
from Committee, with a minimum  amount of $120 per month. He                                                                    
spoke to  food assistance  availability and  maintained that                                                                    
low income seniors are not  getting the assistance they need                                                                    
for basic  services such as  heat and electricity.  He spoke                                                                    
to  Food  Stamps, commenting  that  the  testimony has  been                                                                    
poignant.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
5:20:44 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
LORNA ARNDT,  SELF, KODIAK,  spoke in support  of SB  4, but                                                                    
suggested  that   payments  were  too  low.   She  supported                                                                    
deletion  of the  Longevity  Bonus  program, but  reiterated                                                                    
that SeniorCare  payments should  be greater.  She disagreed                                                                    
with  a determination  based on  gross income.  She stressed                                                                    
that seniors  pay for Medicare.  She encouraged  greater use                                                                    
of  food  banks.  She encouraged  greater  funding  for  the                                                                    
program and the name change to the Senior Benefits Program.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
5:24:13 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHARLES MICHON, HOMER, testified on  the need of the seniors                                                                    
and the  difficulty of surviving  on a fixed income.  He was                                                                    
forced to  discontinue his medical  insurance and  must rely                                                                    
on Medicare. He  noted that he is too old  to work and needs                                                                    
a supplemental income.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
5:26:33 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
JANE  SYMENS,   SELF,  HOMER,  expressed  support   for  the                                                                    
continuation  of the  SeniorCare  Program. She  lives in  an                                                                    
assisted living  home in Homer  and receives just  over $500                                                                    
from  social security.  The  loss of  $120  dollars a  month                                                                    
might prevent her from making her rent payments.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
5:28:21 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
PAM  HORAZDOVSKY, OWNER,  ELDER  OPTIONS  OF ALASKA,  HOMER,                                                                    
spoke in  support of the  legislation. She spoke for  the 17                                                                    
seniors that live at her  home and provided scenarios of two                                                                    
of  those seniors.  Many are  on fixed  incomes and  have no                                                                    
assets to rely on.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
5:30:45 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
SHARON HOWERTON CLARK, SELF, HOMER,  spoke in support of the                                                                    
SeniorCare  Program.  She  asserted  that  seniors  are  not                                                                    
second  hand citizens  or welfare  recipients. She  stressed                                                                    
that seniors cannot go back to work.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
5:32:15 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
ANNA  WINTERS,  SWAN LAKE  SENIOR  CENTER,  SITKA, spoke  in                                                                    
support  of  the  SeniorCare  Program.  She  noted  that  50                                                                    
percent of their seniors cannot  pay the suggested fee of $4                                                                    
for the  meals provided  by their  center. Seniors  need the                                                                    
legislation to  allow them  to pay  their way.  Some seniors                                                                    
must chose  between items such  as heat and  medication. The                                                                    
legislation allows  them more  flexibility in  these choices                                                                    
and allows  them to  stay independent.  Seniors do  not have                                                                    
financial  margins.  The  SeniorCare Program  is  needed  to                                                                    
allow seniors to stay in their homes.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
5:35:56 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
SHIRLEY BURKHART, SWAN LAKE  SENIOR CENTER, SITKA, testified                                                                    
in  support of  the  SeniorCare Program.  She  spoke to  her                                                                    
situation and noted  that she did not  receive the Longevity                                                                    
Bonus.  She pointed  to the  rising cost  of fuel  and other                                                                    
services and asked that the program be made permanent.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
5:37:03 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
WILLIAM  CRAIG, SITKA,  spoke in  support of  the SeniorCare                                                                    
Program. He suggested that poverty  levels differ across the                                                                    
state. He  stressed the difficulty  of living on  the amount                                                                    
of  money   eligible  seniors   receive.  He   stressed  the                                                                    
difficulty seniors have in making ends meet.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
HELEN  UNRUH,   WRANGELL,  testifies   in  support   of  the                                                                    
SeniorCare  Program.  She  noted  that the  cost  of  living                                                                    
varies and  recommended that cost  of living  be considered.                                                                    
She asked  that eligible  seniors be grandfathered  into the                                                                    
program, so that they are not cut off.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
5:40:26 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
BETTY  KEAGAN,  COMMISSION  ON  AGING,  WRANGELL,  spoke  in                                                                    
support  of  the  SeniorCare Program.  She  maintained  that                                                                    
seniors  are  a  bargain  for the  state  of  Alaska.  Funds                                                                    
contributed to seniors help make  Alaska a bigger and better                                                                    
state.  She  pointed  out  that:   seniors  do  not  require                                                                    
educational services;  are law abiding; do  less driving and                                                                    
do not clog the roads;  exercise their rights to vote; value                                                                    
life and show family values  to the next generation; and are                                                                    
active  volunteers. Alaska  has  the  second largest  senior                                                                    
population growth in the United  States. She spoke against a                                                                    
sunset.                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
5:46:41 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MARIE  DARLIN,  AARP,  JUNEAU,   spoke  in  support  of  the                                                                    
SeniorCare Program.  She recommended the bill  be amended to                                                                    
include the eligibility benefits  and guidelines included in                                                                    
HB  198.  This would  allow  needed  assistance for  Alaskan                                                                    
seniors trying  to cope with  the increased cost  of living.                                                                    
Stipends are  used for utilities,  rent food,  and medicine,                                                                    
while seniors do their best  to stay in Alaska. She observed                                                                    
that the benefit, as outlined  by HB 198, would help seniors                                                                    
that have the least income.  The highest benefit would go to                                                                    
individuals  that have  less than  $9,578 in  annual income.                                                                    
These individuals have a difficult  time, especially if they                                                                    
are renters.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
5:49:46 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
SAM  TRIVETTE, JUNEAU,  spoke in  support of  the SeniorCare                                                                    
Program:                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
   · I'm a 53 year resident of Alaska                                                                                           
   · I worked for the State of Alaska for 32 years prior to                                                                     
     retirement. Now I do thousands of hours of volunteer                                                                       
     work, much with Alaska seniors.                                                                                            
   · Although Longevity Bonus helped my elderly parents                                                                         
     remain in Alaska after they had to move into assisted                                                                      
     living in the 1990's, we now are in a different era.                                                                       
   · With Alaska having finite resources, it appears                                                                            
     unlikely the Legislature will continue the Longevity                                                                       
     Bonus program and a program for low income seniors, so                                                                 
     I urge adoption of an assistance program for low                                                                           
     income seniors who are the most needy.                                                                                     
   · During this legislative session, I listened to many                                                                        
     hours of testimony and discussion at the Alaska                                                                            
    Commission on Aging meetings on SeniorCare related                                                                          
     legislation, which has helped me for opinions on these                                                                     
     issues.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                              
Mr. Trivette urged support of  HB 198 and maintained that it                                                                    
would  provide  a  more substantial  benefit  for  a  larger                                                                    
number of low  income seniors. He asserted  that the current                                                                    
SeniorCare program  has a number  of technical  problems and                                                                    
SB  4 does  not provide  the level  of payment  to help  the                                                                    
neediest seniors.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Trivette asserted  that the annual impact  of seniors on                                                                    
the  Alaska  economy  was estimated  by  the  University  of                                                                    
Alaska  ISER at  $1.46  billion; this  translates into  over                                                                  
110,000 full  time jobs in the  Alaska economy. Furthermore,                                                                    
Alaska seniors  contribute many tens  of thousands  of hours                                                                    
of volunteer work, at no cost to Alaskans.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
5:51:50 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
DENISE DANIELLO, EXECUTIVE  COMMISSION, COMMISSION ON AGING,                                                                    
testified  in support  of  a  continued SeniorCare  program,                                                                    
specifically SB4,  amended with improvements from  HB 198 as                                                                    
outlined in the support letter submitted by the Commission.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Ms.  Daniello  observed  that based  on  conversations  with                                                                    
seniors  from  around the  State,  SeniorCare  makes a  real                                                                    
difference for  seniors who live  on modest incomes  and use                                                                    
SeniorCare benefits  to help pay for  life's essentials such                                                                    
as food,  housing, utilities,  and other  necessities. These                                                                    
individuals are  doing their best  to make ends  meet, while                                                                    
holding on to their dignity, living in Alaska, their home.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
The current SeniorCare Program  benefits older Alaskans over                                                                    
the  age of  65  who earn  less than  $16,133  for a  single                                                                    
person and $21,641 for a couple annually.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Poverty  impacts  seniors  disproportionately  in  primarily                                                                    
rural  areas   of  the   State.  Recently,   the  Commission                                                                    
performed an analysis of  SeniorCare cash benefit recipients                                                                    
by region  and found that a  significantly higher proportion                                                                    
of elders rely  on SeniorCare in rural  Alaska where poverty                                                                    
levels  and the  cost of  living  are the  highest. In  Wade                                                                    
Hampton census area,  for example, almost 60%  of the elders                                                                    
receive  SeniorCare. Over  48% of  the rural  elders in  the                                                                    
Bethel census area  are SeniorCare beneficiaries. Similarly,                                                                    
more than 35% of the elders  in the Nome Census area receive                                                                    
SeniorCare.  In comparison,  14%  of  Anchorage seniors  and                                                                    
about  10% of  seniors living  in Juneau  receive SeniorCare                                                                    
benefits.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Ms.  Daniello  recommended  amending  the bill  to  use  the                                                                    
eligibility guidelines  and benefits included in  HB 198, in                                                                    
order to  provide assistance  to a  greater number  of older                                                                    
Alaskans.  These   benefits  include  an  increase   of  the                                                                    
program's  income  limits to  175%  of  the federal  poverty                                                                    
guidelines  for  Alaska  and  an  increase  in  the  monthly                                                                    
benefit  to $250  for  households  at 75%  and  less of  the                                                                    
federal poverty guideline whose income  is no more than $798                                                                    
monthly.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Ms.  Daniello pointed  out  that  older Alaskans  contribute                                                                    
significantly to  the state on  many levels.  Alaska seniors                                                                    
serve   as   community  volunteers,   caregivers,   cultural                                                                    
historians,  and as  mentors for  all generations,  but they                                                                    
also contribute economically to  the state. In 2005, seniors                                                                    
invested almost  $1.5 billion from their  retirement income,                                                                    
Social Security, health care  spending, and investments into                                                                    
Alaska's  economy.  She  stressed  that it  may  be  in  the                                                                    
state's  best  interest  to support  programs  that  benefit                                                                    
retired  seniors in  order to  cultivate their  economic and                                                                    
social  assets and  asserted that  their security  and well-                                                                    
being are the responsibility of all Alaskans.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
5:56:07 PM                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                              
LORILYN SWANSON,  CHAIR, JUNEAU  COMMISSION ON  AGING, spoke                                                                    
in support  of the SeniorCare  Program. Ms. Swanson  is also                                                                    
the  manager  of  Fireweed   Place,  an  independent  living                                                                    
apartment building for  seniors. She deals on  a daily basis                                                                    
with the outcome  of limited income and  reduction in income                                                                    
for seniors.  She stressed  that $120.00  may not  seem like                                                                    
much to  some but to those  who have an income  of less than                                                                    
$1,350 per month,  it is sizeable. "To have  this taken away                                                                    
means that  they may  have to change  housing or  do without                                                                    
the daily necessities.  Please  understand that many did not                                                                    
expect to be  in this position, they thought  they were well                                                                    
covered for in  their later years but through the  loss of a                                                                    
spouse and  income reduction they  find that they  no longer                                                                    
have the  income to  survive.   The SeniorCare  Income means                                                                    
that many can stay  independent, without being considered on                                                                    
Welfare."                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Swanson works  with approximately 75 seniors  on a daily                                                                    
basis; of  those 75,  approximately 20  received SeniorCare.                                                                    
With this year's raise of  3.3% in social security payments,                                                                    
7 persons  no longer qualified for  SeniorCare payments. She                                                                    
pointed out that 35% of the  seniors she works with and many                                                                    
more throughout  the state were  disqualified over  a change                                                                    
in income of  just a few dollars a month.  She observed that                                                                    
HB 198 would cover this cost of living increase.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Swanson noted that seniors  followed the Longevity Bonus                                                                    
and SeniorCare  issues throughout the election  and the past                                                                    
legislative  session and  suggested they  would continue  to                                                                    
follow  these issues  during the  interim.  She was  shocked                                                                    
when  the  Legislature failed  to  address  this issue.  She                                                                    
spoke in  support of  HB 198, which  has a  graduated income                                                                    
level.  House  Bill  198  also covers  the  cost  of  living                                                                    
increase   in  social   security,   which  would   otherwise                                                                    
disqualify many.                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Swanson stressed that seniors  are anxious over the lack                                                                    
of action  on the continuation of  SeniorCare program, which                                                                    
came after the  shock of having the  Longevity Bonus program                                                                    
discontinued by the  previous Administration. She maintained                                                                    
that Longevity  Bonus should  no longer  be an  issue, since                                                                    
the SeniorCare Bill will take care  of those who were on the                                                                    
Longevity   Bonus  and   who  truly   need  the   help.  She                                                                    
acknowledged  that seniors  originally  wanted to  reinstate                                                                    
the Longevity Bonus  Program, but noted that  there has been                                                                    
shift toward support of the SeniorCare bill.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
6:00:18 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
SHEILA  HOWE,   ANCHORAGE,  testified  in  support   of  the                                                                    
SeniorCare  Program.  She spoke  in  support  of adding  the                                                                    
provisions  of HB  198  to SB  4. She  noted  the number  of                                                                    
veterans that receive SeniorCare payments.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
6:02:48 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
LOREEN MCGEE,  WRANGELL, spoke in support  of the SeniorCare                                                                    
Program. She is an active volunteer  at 84 years of age. She                                                                    
noted that she had to sell  her car when the Longevity Bonus                                                                    
was discontinued. She stressed  that seniors need assistance                                                                    
and urged support of the legislation.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
6:05:16 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Meyer  reviewed plans for  the special  session. He                                                                    
felt confidant that SeniorCare legislation would be passed.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Gara stated  that he  would like  to address                                                                    
inflation proofing.                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
CSSB 4 (FIN) am was heard  and HELD in Committee for further                                                                    
consideration.                                                                                                                  
ADJOURNMENT                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
The meeting was adjourned at 6:09 PM                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                

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